On my main characters in wow I don’t have trade channel showing but on my banking alt I do and I have started noticing a lot of people asking for more to their raid pugs to link achievements, mainly [Epic] and the achievement to kill the final bosses for the raid they wish to run. I haven’t noticed many people ask for specific Gearscore yet, but that could just be my auctioneer spam. I was also reading a post on the US forums about this same issue aswell and I just wanted to talk a little about my views on the subject.
To start with I’ll just let everyone know that on my main I do have the [Epic] achievement, but from my PvP gear since I still have about 3 or 4 iLevel 200 items and 1 is even a blue. I have cleared all the tier 7 raid content and have done most of Ulduar (the guild I’m in has cleared all but Yogg-Saron although I wasn’t there for General Vezax). Since the summer holiday ended the guild I am in has lost alot of people to work and school so raids have come to a halt, although a few of us are doing Naxx with another guild and looking to get back into Ulduar we still seem to have a few issues with lacking healers and sometimes tanks. So with all this I’ve started thinking about pugging some raids but I don’t want it to get in the way of possible cross guild raids of Naxx or Ulduar so maybe ToC 10 normal (I should of noted earlier that I’ve only done 10 player normals), and this is where the achievements and gear score stuff comes into play.
Am I geared for ToC 10? No idea, I would like to think so, I did 4k dps in Nexus heroic (although that was the big rock guy who never moves and dies in about 40 seconds or something silly), that seems ok to me, the rogue in my guild said he had started having to work to keep his dps above mine and he did Ony the other day. So lets take a look at trade channel and see who is trying to pug it, “LFM for ToC 10 /w epic and achi”, crap… Well I have epic but not done ToC yet, so apparently that’s not gonna really help. I’ve seen that same trade message a lot lately and it seems a little silly to me, fair enough you want people who can handle themselves when you pug a group, but is it really necessary to have the achievement for ToC as well, maybe what Devilspartne from Hydraxis-us said would make more sense.
People who use gearscore for heroics and naxx are insane, but I think when u start getting up there in raids if used properly it can be a good addon. For example if i were to make an ulduar 25 pug i would req that you at least can link me a KT kill and for ToC that you at least dont have greens for the 3rd epic tier of gear.
I think that makes a lot more sense really, don’t you? What he said about Naxx and heroics is also true, they were being pugged and cleared for a long time before people started asking for achievements and gearscore. The really funny thing though is when you get something like “LFM Naxx 10 /w epic and achi”, just reading that and it seems basically the same as the ToC one, right? Well your right and your wrong, it is the same but, and this is a big but, you can’t get the epic achievement from Naxx 10, only 25 or higher raids. When I first read that I was worried I would piss myself from laughter, seriously.
As you might of guessed I am not a fan of this achievement crap needed to get into raids, your pugging the raid, get over yourselves. If I expected everyone in my raid to have completed the raid then I’d join a guild that has already completed it. Something else I have noticed, about 75% of the time the people who ask for the achievements don’t link their own ones, do they even have them? Maybe I’m just being paranoid and untrusting (is that even a word?), but I really don’t believe all of those people have those achievements, they just wanna be carried. Now you maybe thinking “Well you don’t have the achievement so don’t you wanna be carried aswell?”, nope. I’m perfectly happy to go into a raid with others like myself, new to the instance and ready to wipe a few times, why else would I go into Onyxia’s Lair with 9 people, most of which are Naxx and Badge geared and have a small wipe fest, was a good laugh though, and we didn’t do to badly, could of used a third healer though, maybe next time.
To wrap things up (normally I don’t write this much for anything, but the realms are down so what more do you expect then loads of words?) I don’t like it when people ask for achievements that aren’t even close to necessary to do an particular instance, shoulda just said that in the first place.